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Talk:The Holy Ground

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Clear box research

Category Difficulty C Difficulty B Difficulty A Difficulty S Difficulty S2
[B] Gigush [B] Claymore [B] Calibur [B] Hanzo [B] Jogiri
[B] Fists [B] Wire Gloves [B] Rivet Gloves x x
Laser cannons
x x x [B] Laser Cannon [B] Maser Cannon
Line shields
[B] Hel-senba [B] Me-senba [B] Gi-senba [B] Har-senba [B] Sori-senba
[B] Yonoi-senba [B] Ageha-senba [B] Assino-senba [B] Nafri-senba [B] Michi-senba

Talk:Bladed Legacy for reference. S2s listed. Thought this was pretty popular. A number of these line shield boards seem to also be Ageeta drops. Sori-senba seems out of place as far as rarity goes. Toothball says he thinks he got a Maser Cannon on S2, which would appear to fit. S-T-H 08:36, 10 November 2008 (CST)

  • I just filled in the S2 drops from the JP wiki's chart. I think this may be another mission where weapon types change with difficulty, as no knuckles are reported on either S or S2, seemingly having been replaced by laser cannons. - EspioKaos 09:37, 10 November 2008 (CST)
    • I thought as well that it was probably a weapon/difficulty change. I think though that the Sori-senba on S is likely a mistake considering the rarities. I was also taken aback when it claimed not just two, but three line shields. S-T-H 10:39, 10 November 2008 (CST)
    • I noticed something interesting about Cost of Research. I'm not sure what it is I want to suggest here, but it should be easy to catch similarities when comparing these line shields to that set of box drops. S-T-H 22:59, 10 November 2008 (CST)

Ooh, nice find! So, we've got something like this (based on the boss' level in cases when it crosses into a second tier from the mission's original base level):

LV10-19 LV20-29 LV30-39 LV40-49 LV50-59 LV60-69 LV70-79 LV80-99 LV100-124
[B] Hel-senba [B] Sta-senba [B] Me-senba [B] Gi-senba [B] Te-senba  ? [B] Har-senba [B] Sori-senba [B] Cati-senba
[B] Yonoi-senba [B] Reiha-senba [B] Ageha-senba [B] Assino-senba [B] Hoza-senba  ? [B] Nafri-senba [B] Michi-senba [B] Yamata-senba

Assumption made on the LV50 tier, of course. That one is easy enough since there are only two Yohmei line shields that follow the previous two. But once you move up to 7★, you run into the problem of having four to choose from. And that suddenly makes the [B] Sori-senba reported on the JP wiki for an S drop kind of strange since it's an 8★ item which would (and does) match up with the next tier up. - EspioKaos 23:51, 10 November 2008 (CST)

  • I'm still unsure on this and Talk:Fight for Food, however they would be comparable (pairs of appropriately leveled line shields with an additional tier of one higher). I think I'll do some runs and see what comes up. I'm somewhat doubtful that a mission would have three sets of line shield drops for just the clear boxes. S-T-H 13:22, 29 November 2008 (CST)
  • Some values from Rainbow Beast added. --S-T-H 06:14, 16 February 2009 (CST)
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